i hear a lot about, we should pull out of afghanistan, it's not working, you know? it doesn't work, billions of dollars later, thousands -- we haven't accomplished anything. it's a frustration that are here, of course because when we are not involved in something, and something goes wrong and was given the power to someone else to do it right, they didn't do it right so we all get frustrated, yes, american people have died and we haven't achieved anything. i don't really, and income yesterday somebody said, you know, quitters are not winners. and i don't think like quitting we're going to achieve anything. i think only by stopping and reflecting, you know, what happened, what did we do wrong in the last 10 years? and how we can change that. because nobody wants another september 11 happening.